[ATTENTION] BEDWARS REVIVAL [ATTENTION]

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Do you think Bedwars should be added back?

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  2. Totally

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  3. Extremely

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  1. Swift
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    Bedwars (pt. 1)

    It's been a while since bedwars (bw will mean bedwars now) has been removed from Mineverse but now I'm going to give you a few reasons on why that was a mistake and why adding it back would be pretty beneficial for Mineverse as a whole.

    First, We realize why it was removed. You had 16 different servers (see #10) and the player base only took up about three of those ever at a time. So why not just add three bw servers back because it will not only save you money but it will get players back on who miss the gamemode. Look at the servers you have just sitting there collecting dust like Parkour or even Factions, it's ALWAYS at 0 players so at least Bedwars will have a game running, it always did! This was the only minigame that was actually being played on Mineverse and removing it you lost all of it's community, adding it back will get a lot of who stopped playing back into it, I know that for sure. I know the server feels like it's dead and the only gamemode that has players really is OP PvP. I really do think adding this back can get people who used to play here back into it, it's a better time then any to at least try it.

    We do have a few features however that we think would be great to keep in the game:
    - Enderchest per map not per server (meaning they don't reset and we keep our supplies on the map every game). We're trying to figure out how to recreate this most likely bug but it was really useful to have resources that you farmed from previous games in the next game on that map. We don't want enderchests to be changed to team chests however.
    - Same shop overall maybe a little updating though (discussed in #13).

    - Keep the server version at 1.8.9 unless you're able to provide a decent anti-cheat system because if it's allowed for all versions like op pvp is able to connect using 1.9-1.14 then the extreme hacks that are used there will just be followed and while dying on op pvp from that doesn't really affect the gamemode all that much that will be a superb problem on bedwars if 50+ reach exists. We have a few plugins that allow for 1.7/1.8 pvp that actually work if you decide to make the server 1.12.2 however. We also have really good anti cheat plugins you could check out.
    - A chunk of flatlands around the map is okay to keep in but not INFINITE (see #8 about this)
    - Keep the games 6v6v6v6 because it was way more fun to fight in bigger battles like these. Don't change to 4v4v4v4 :'(.


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    I believe the gamemode however does require a few updates. I'm not exactly looking for a exact copy of bw to be added with their fancy items and special upgrades like that because what made this server's bw fun is how it was filled with glitches and how the game lasted for a while because it consisted of just fooling around instead of actually playing the game but still there are tons of features we'd like to see are for example:

    1. Map Voting - seeing as we will only have three servers for bw we'd like the maps we used to have and the option to vote for which one we'd like to play. I think it would be best when choosing a map it generates between 3 choices for us to choose randomly out of all of the options so not one map can just be chosen over and over again. God and higher can vote twice, it's not like they get two separate votes for two different maps it will just mean that their one vote will count as two. A GUI menu can work just as well if not better but just as a example of what we're looking for:
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    The 4th option Random if chosen will pick between the any available maps.

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    2. Mods should have perms in Bedwars - A big downside is that hackers could never be punished mid-game because moderators did not have permissions to ban, mute or even kick in a game because ranks didn't exist in any of the bw servers. I think this should be changed so mods can have their only required permissions being /tempban, /tempmute, & /kick that I can think of (because /fly, /god and /vanish could be abused not saying they will be). This is just to have moderation if a mod decides to play a game. This can also get rid of the whole minigame punishments get executed in lobby rule.

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    3. Level roles - I am proposing we have a currency called score or points. The way you earn the score points are by killing players, destroying beds and winning games. Each will give a certain amount of score points. If you remember in the old bw we were rewarded with rubies which were to be spent on cosmetics in the lobby. Seeing how those no longer exist this is the backup plan. The score points are not really something to be spent however, they're more of a currency rank for example:
    If you were to hit 250 score points for example you'd get the role of "Dreamer". I suppose the roles could give a benefit in each game like as suggested you could spawn with a wooden sword so you can defend yourself.
    While everyone can start at the beginning rank of "Baby" with no benefit.
    This is our example score earning system if you want to take a look at it (we just divided it in half by what it used to be):
    Killing players (in general) will earn you 1 point. (a suggestion had been made to prevent spawnkilling from being beneficial, prevent people from farming kills of alts/friends etc by adding a sort of limit of how many kills actually give you points, the number we thought of was 30 per person per game or to be specific +1 score every +1 kill you get on your first 30 kills per that match).
    The first kill of the entire match and the last kill of any player after their bed is broken will earn you 2 points.
    Breaking beds will earn you 25 points.
    Winning the game will earn you 50 points.
    So in the end it would be like this:
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    The rank names we have came up with are in this order exactly (no point value yet):
    Baby
    Bedwetter
    Bed Head
    Cat
    Bear
    Panda
    Koala
    Sloth
    Nocturnal
    Dreamer
    Snoozer
    Drowsy
    Sneaky
    Lazy
    Siesta
    Hibernator
    Hungover
    Bed Bug
    Full Moon
    Star
    Snorlax
    Lullaby
    Dreamcatcher
    Hallucination
    Hypnotist
    Eternal Rest
    Insomniac
    Monster
    Nightmare
    And it would look like this in-game:
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    The color your username and rank will be is shown by what team you are chosen as so you will all start off as light gray but then after you choose a team it will change to that color accordingly. If you have Black [ ] then that will represent that you are a staff member as shown for example above. Your rank will be shown in tab so whatever donor rank you own or if you are default it will be shown like regular on any other gamemode:
    [​IMG]

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    4. Achievements - Achievements are to spice the game up make it more exciting and a reason to actually try and be the one to do these certain things in the game. Some examples are:
    - Played 100 games -> 200 games
    - Broken 50 beds -> 100 beds
    - Killed 125 players -> 250 players
    - Obtain 250 bronze -> 500 bronze
    - Obtain 150 iron -> 300 iron
    - Obtain 100 gold -> 250 gold
    They can be progressive where they're in sections like for example...
    There could be 4 different achievement categories
    *Beds Broken
    *Kills Earned
    *Items Gained
    *Wins Achieved
    Each achievement you complete the next one just ramps up in numbers so after you get the first 100 it can go to something like 250. These achievements can reward you with score points possibly or something even better.

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    5. Fix Spec blocking - So if you remember spec blocking was a real issue, after you died you got set as a spectator and you were able to block players who were still alive that were trying to build or trying to use an enderpearl. Easy fix is really to just set spectators in actual spectator mode which would be /gamemode 3. I suppose if you can keep it the way it used to be and just fix it that would work too.

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    Bedwars (pt. 2)

    6. NEW MAPS! - We have new maps since it's been a while and plus we don't even know if Noobcrew has the bw files to begin with so just being safe about it. @Sando3 is in the process of rebuilding the old (and more new) maps and has the old (and renditioned versions of the) lobby as well but he has posted new maps if you'd like to take a look at them here:
    [Super Mario]
    [Candy World]

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    7. Rejoin option - Sometimes you join on the wrong client, get kicked or lagged out and you want to rejoin so why not have this option? I've thought about the hacker part though and I think it would still be a good idea to have this in the game but only having the option to rejoin once after that it's on you if you get kicked multiple times it's for a reason. Moderators can join however many times they need too just in case the 'mods get perms in bw' suggestion doesn't work out and they need to do lobby bans.

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    8.
    ADD A BARRIER WALL - You know the wall if you look on the outside of OP PvP? The one that looks like this?:
    [​IMG]
    Yeah this one which is in the game by 1.8 so it can be added. This is better than the actual barrier block because you can't glitch through it and even if you do glitch through this one you will lose health and die eventually unlike the other one. This is to prevent you to go FOREVER in the flatlands and never be found.

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    9.
    All full blocks that are obtainable should be breakable - In the old bw we went through many phases when many blocks that were unbreakable were one way or another obtainable in a map which allowed them to use it as bed protection making the bed if not impossible just really hard to break without a lot of glitching. Some of these blocks would be sand, anvils, string, wool and carpet (but only allow the 4 main team colors being Blue, Red, Yellow and Green of wool/carpet to be broken not white or black wool or carpet though to prevent the skyline restaurant map to be completely screwed up). If any other are considered I will add them to this list just make sure these ones are on the list to be broken.

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    10.
    An idea of bedwars just being on ONE server (Multiverse-Worlds?) - This is more of an experiment idea than a real one but it could work. You know how Skywars used to run well how about you try it the same way? Using the plugin Multiverse you could create multiple worlds for different games to run in and you could make chat only work in that certain world for those players in that game in that world while another game is going on in another world. I'm not sure if this would be more difficult or more expensive but it was worth a shot to try and explain our thoughts.

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    11. New Rules - As explained in other suggestions above I think we should include two new rules if you were to bring back Bedwars being these:
    1. Punish Spawnkilling
    2. Punish Teamkilling/Trolling
    While these were both annoying back then the reason these should be changed is for the following - as suggested in #3 kills will now mean something, you'll gain score points so technically if you were to allow spawnkilling it will be basically saying that farming for points is fine when it is not fine to let's say farm for money on OP PvP (let's face it, it was always annoying either way). Team damage (if possible to just disable entirely then this doesn't matter) would be nice to be punishable as well seeing that TnT and Fishing rods exist in the game and they were used more on killing your own team than the enemies. I know you could just remove those items but fishing rods at least could be useful in PvP. However there will be exceptions to these rules being for #1 Spawnkilling will be ALLOWED if the bed is protected using unbreakable blocks found that weren't fixed and #2 Team trolling will be ALLOWED if under the consent of the one being teamkilled (so it was allowed on both sides) meaning that the one being trolled must do the report (unless of course the teamkilling is obvious like using TNT to blow up your teammates and a player leaves of rage or multiple players got killed).

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    12. Inventory Setup - Seeing as we're changing a lot we thought we'd need to adjust how the inventory had your items in the lobby so here's our thoughts..
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    Bed: Choose your team between Yellow, Red, Green & Blue.
    Paper: This is used to vote on what map you'd like to play which will randomly generate between 3 of the many options we hope to have.
    Player Head: This is used like it was before to show your stats of how many kills you've earned, beds you've broken, wins/losses you've obtained and deaths you've gotten.
    Enchanted Book: If achievements are added this is how you will keep track of them, they are explained in #4 but it will basically show a progress bar on the achievement you've selected and are currently working on and the ones you are done with or haven't unlocked yet to reach the next one.
    Nether Star: This is used to see the leaderboards of who has the most beds broken, the most kills and the most wins like before and it will list the top 10 of each category.
    Sorry there's no lobby back item because we don't want players leaving the game before it's even started :(.

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    13. Shop Changed? / Upgrades Added? - While it hasn't been really thought to how and what will be added about this topic it has passed over our heads. We were considering new items and possibly upgrades like the bigger servers have we just aren't sure of what yet. WIP on this number. Maybe even certain special items as well? Items that could be useful to add within the shop could be wood (I know you could of used chests too for this like before but you could bypass breaking them) and axes for better bed protection you could make it 3-layered requiring a sword, pickaxe and axe to break all layers efficiently which I think could make the game more interesting. I know some people will miss the villager trading system we had before but we believe that upgrading it to a GUI will be quicker and easier to understand and to purchase items from. Something else that was suggested is upgrades, one that was talked about is an 'alert' one that will either make a sound or show some text on your screen when an enemy enters your island.

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    14. Fix the glitched chunks on the following maps (if you decide to still use those or if you even have them still) - @Sando3 has made a list of the glitched chunks a while ago on the old maps so if you decide to add those back here is what you should fix:
    [​IMG]

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    15. Party System - The old lobby used to have a /party command that allowed the leader to create a party and have private chats with just it's members and it also teleported all of the members within the party to whatever server the leader joined. While this was not just for bw I feel like it would be most useful to have again if bw gets readded.

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    16. Enable Passive Mob / Animal Spawning

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    I know these suggestions all seem like a lot to add but I promise you the effort will be worth it because unlike some of the servers currently available to us on Mineverse, this one will be played! *cough cough Parkour* We are trying our best not to complain and push on you everything we want so we try to just put the absolute top 20 things (if we even have that many to begin with) at the very least of things we think could benefit the server if bw was to be added back as a gamemode.

    TL;DR - I know this is a long thread @Noobcrew and I'm trying to make it worth your time to read this because I know you're busy so to put it short we want Bedwars back as a community this is a decision we have decided and have put tons of effort into trying to make this thread decent. We want it back but we want it back correctly the best way we can think of which may be hard for you but we're trying to make it so it's beneficial to add back for you of course. We just ask for you to try this idea for at least a month and see how it works out using these ideas, I think I can promise you it will go better than two of the current gamemodes.

    This thread has 30+ supports and counting as we speak and not a single no support / neutral.
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    I hope this number speaks for the community as seeing this many people supporting a thread I can only say that probably means you should add it back :).​
     
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    I think that conceptionally this would be a good idea. Get rid of a game mode such as parkour for a game mode like Bed wars. But I think the problem would be being able to build an audience to play bed wars consistently. Its a good idea, maybe make the bed wars lobby need only 4 people to play a game so there's always a lobby running. I think it could be fun and I support
     
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    revising the thread on friday need 3rd post to fix
     
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    I personally don't believe team beds wars outside of maybe duos would be realistic for this server. If bed wars were to come back I think duos and solos are the only lobby that would get games and that might even be a stretch. If bed wars were to comeback it's debut would get probably many players playing it similar to what we saw today with oppvp, but after that it would probably fall off especially if its team bedwars.
     
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    well personally I would disagree with you. It will do better with teams than solo but I guess we'll see how this goes. If we got bedwars back I can assure that maybe old players who played will probably return.
     
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    support
     
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    i see your point for the most part.
     
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    You have my support i enjoyed that game mode on here haha
     
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    Support replace it with current parkour I would love something new to play.
     
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    Definite support. This was my favorite game on Mineverse for a long time.
     
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    Support! Love bed wars.
     
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    Ok basically this will actually have players because bedwars is the second most played gamemode in the world, use facts people.
     
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    For the most part this thread is complete with all the detail I could put in it. Thank you all for the supports <3
     
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    :)
     
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    Support! :3
     
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    No not really, when bedwars existed on MV it was super popular. A lot of the times there were many bedwars games going at once. There would also be a high attraction of people because currently many youtubers are playing bedwars. It would be a good idea for bedwars to be added just for the reason of attracting more players to Mineverse.

    @Noobcrew @Janice999 @kinsey_kid @PiLe @Random

    I know the older staff members know what we are talking about, especially because most of the older staff players have played bedwars after the friday staff meetings and actually enjoyed it.

    I think this is a great suggestion and should actually be considered.
     
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    i support this only because you put way too much effort into your post.

    tbh if u want to play bedwars just play on you-know-what
     
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