Prison Prison-Factions!

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  1. Chain
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    This is an odd suggestion. I am proposing that Mineverse releases my unreleased (and right now unfinished) prison server.

    The server is a lot like the old Prison from 2015, but improved in as many ways as I could possibly think of. Myself and a group of others rebuilt the map from scratch using videos and screenshots, but I redesigned it in some areas to make it more efficient and just all around better. It isn't just a map however, it is nearly a fully functioning game-mode. It retains many aspects of the old prison but I have added in a lot of new features which I will explain in-depth later on in this thread.

    Why don't I just release the server myself? Good question. There are a few reasons, one being I am not bothered to maintain a server by myself, another being the fact that I do not have a large player-base and do not have the means (money) to obtain such a player-base, whereas Noobcrew does and the third being that I cannot play my own server; I would love nothing more than to play Prison-Factions like I did back in 2015/2016.

    What I feel is one of the greatest advantages I have over Crew/Brandon in making this game-mode is the fact that I actually played Prison, and still would love to play Prison again. Heck, I want to play this game mode myself, so you can be sure it's damn good.

    I will go into detail now about what my game-mode/server consists of:

    The Map
    I redesigned and rebuilt the old Prison map a few months ago with the help of a few other Mineverse/ex-Mineverse players.

    Two entire blocks were removed because I deemed them unnecessary, this should definitely make the map less laggy than it used to be. What we have now are two blocks, one for prisoners, and one for the prestige ranks. Inside the prisoner block there are six mines, two for D-Prisoners, two for C-Prisoners, one for B-Prisoners and one for A-Prisoners. You will see how this looks off the Youtube video I have posted below.

    The idea of placing all the prisoner mines around a central PvP area was entirely intentional, PvP is and should be a major aspect of Prison, and putting all the prisoners around this area I feel puts an emphasis on PvP. Furthermore, the PvP area is much bigger than it used to be, along with this there are far more cells which can be used as shops which cell gear/items necessary for fighting, or anything really.

    There are plots which surround the entire perimeter of the Prison. Note that the pricing for plots/cells has been carefully configured to support a player-shop based economy.

    Custom free-world and nether spawns have been built, and will be visible in the Youtube video below.



    The Economy
    The prices of various items in the shop have already been chosen, however they will most probably be altered slightly once I test how long it actually takes to rank-up from D -> Free. Several actions have been taken to encourage a player-shop based economy rather than a server-shop based economy.

    I have, in a way, introduced a new currency in the form of flint. Citizen+ have access to trade with what I call "Flint-Dealers" (keep in mind this is custom coded by me). Upon clicking a Flint-Dealing villager, a GUI will display within which players can trade farming goods such as wheat or melons for flint. The player can then trade the flint for various items such as weapons, tools, armour or enchanted books. The Citizen+ players can then sell these items for profit in their own player-shops based inside the prison either on a plot or in a cell. This gives players another way to make money other than simply mining, and encourages a player-shop based economy. Furthermore, small amounts of flint are found within each mine, which prisoners can sell to Citizen+ players.

    The introduction of flint as a currency stops inflation, which would occur if the GUI shop gave money in exchange for farming goods.

    The Ranks

    Credit is due to samuelgamer123 for helping in coming up with the great idea of introducing more ranks, but lowering prices. All of the new ranks/prices are shown in my video of the map.

    However my own idea, which I think is great, is that every time you rank-up, you unlock more perks that were previously restricted to donation ranks only. This not only gives incentive for ranking up, but also makes the server EULA compliant. For example, once a player reaches the "High-Roller" rank, they may gain access to "/fix all", or once a player reaches the "Citizen" rank, they may gain access to the command "/heal".

    What prison ranks coincide with what donator ranks is something that would have to be discussed; however, I believe that it is absolutely necessary that this is done, regardless of the effect it may have on server income. (which it probably won't affect at all)

    Plugins

    There are lots of new plugins that I have added to the game-mode. Some are custom-coded e.g. the hologram plugin and the flint-dealers. Some examples are plugins such as Rename, Marriage and Custom Enchantments (the enchantments would be restricted so as to not break the game-mode). The ability to marry, for example, could be a perk limited to Citizen+ and the donor rank "Elite".

    Factions

    Yes, the game-mode is still half factions. I haven't fully implemented the factions plugin and as I myself am not an avid factions player, configuring this particular part of the game-mode is something that I would do with the help of someone who plays Factions. I feel the biggest mistake of the most recent Prison is that the plot world utterly destroys the point of factions; people just store everything on their plots instead of in bases in the free world. In my game-mode a fee must be paid to rent plots/cells and store items on them.

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    There are a lot more features and plugins that I have forgotten to mention, this is only a summary of what the game mode is.

    Right now, the game mode is up and running on a private, white-listed server that I own. If anyone would actually like to see it, I'd be more than happy to let you.

    Finally, I'd like to say that yes, I am offering this map and game-mode for free but there are a few conditions that I'd like Crew to agree upon:


    - That nothing major be changed without the consent of myself.

    - That the administration act swiftly to change things where necessary (e.g. modifying prices, fixing bugs etc.)

    - That full credit is given to myself and those that helped me.

    Am I asking a lot? No. I'm offering something that could potentially make Crew money. Everything I am asking for is not worth a cent.
     
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    Full support, if not the gamemode at least the map, I have seen the map (technically I helped build it so that's why xP) and I know how amazing it is and how much it would please the old players, even new players like me who sadly weren't able to play the wonderful old prison.
     
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    I keep on getting random monkey errors.
    This does seem like an interesting idea, but im not sure how popular it would be.
     
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    I agree. The map is pretty phenomenal.

    That's very true. It's definitely a unique concept, but I think that if it were to be released, it would only really be lively for a couple of weeks.
     
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    The last time it was released, it was lively for three years without any updates. I just remade the old server but changed things here and there and added new features.
     
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    I see. I really like the prison game mode in general; I just never got attached to Mineverse prison so I didn't play it often. My previous statement was solely based on speculation. I just came to the conclusion that if there were to be the introduction of a new game mode that heavily focuses on PvP, it would create division between the already minuscule number of players on Kit PvP and OPPvP. I hope I make sense; It's like 2 in the morning and my mind is kind of foggy. I apologize in advanced if I appear delirious XD
     
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    To whoever keeps deleting the support comments off this thread, do you wanna not?
     
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    Came here just to support this. Always loved the old prison game mode. It was my first MC love and probably will always have a special place in my heart. I'm thankful that you let me be part of it. 100% support!
     
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    Awesome work Chain!

    Like most new releases, they will attract a group of players who will grind like crazy for a few weeks and then they will drift off to another gamemode or server. But Chain, I think you stumbled upon something that could work well in not only attracting the new players and retaining them, but it will actually bring back the old players too.

    The dynamics of Old Prison were complex, and the ecosystems and communities it spawned kept the game challenging and exciting. I spent a few lifetimes working on ranking up, and I also donated hundreds of dollars to MV for myself and friends because it was fun and it was worth playing. It honestly looks like you brought back many of those critical elements that can put life back in to the game and rebuild those communities.

    I'd actually like to see this happen. I totally support it.
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    As a person who worked on this game mode I won't say too much, but this is something Mineverse needs. The hype around 2015 prison was always there since the reset and people really want it back. This is a great recreation that I would even consider better than the prison from 2015 considering it has a lot more better ideas and upgrades that we're picked by players who put in a lot of hours in to the older prison.
     
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    I’m pretty sure you saw on discord and talked about it, just letting you know posts just as ‘support’ or ‘no support’ are now clarified as Post Farming. You now have to add a little detail to your posts .
     
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    Ridiculous, such a rule will only make the forum even more dead than it already has become.

    Sometimes all someone wants to say is support/no support and no further explanation is needed.
     
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    Looks and sounds great. Definite support.
     
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    Support! I really enjoyed the old prison and I would probably come back to Mineverse if this happened. I'm sure many others would too!
     
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    Support the old map is old and grainy this would be neat.
     
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    Support, a lot of people would probably come back if this was added.
     
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    Absolute support, I missed old prisons and the guards, it was just such a different experience than normal prison's community and gameplay
     
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    Bumperino.
     
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    Support. From skimming this thread (sorry didn't feel like reading an essay no hard feelings) you have a passion for a change. It's rare you get to see someone build something for the server because they are dedicated to it. I have played prison a few times and will say it's not the best and do believe the prices can be better as well as make it smaller because it annoys me a lot.
     
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    I didn't build it for this server. :tearsofjoy:
     

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